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==Preliminary Plans== | ==Preliminary Plans== | ||
* Reconnaissance once snow gone: | * Reconnaissance once snow gone (before we fly up supplies): | ||
** Survey site | ** Survey site | ||
** Dig hole(s) to bedrock (need pick, shovel, bar) | ** Dig hole(s) to bedrock (need pick, shovel, bar) | ||
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* Decide on specific foundation design | * Decide on specific foundation design | ||
* Get needed matierials on helicopter | * Get needed matierials on helicopter | ||
* Get unsuspecting slaves to do lots of manual work (dig 6 holes, transport and wash rocks, mix mortar) | * Get volunteers (unsuspecting slaves) to do lots of manual work (dig 6 holes, transport and wash rocks, mix mortar) | ||
==Preliminary Design== | ==Preliminary Design== | ||
* 6 | We have two options for the materials used to build the foundations: rock or concrete. But any final designs will need to wait for the recon, since the depth and height of the foundations depends on how deep the bedrock is and how level the site is. | ||
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* | For either option the foundations will be: | ||
* Beams fit | |||
* Beams are 4.5" wide. Outside faces of beams are 11'-10.5"apart. | * 6 piers (circular, 8" diameter if concrete) | ||
* piers rest on a footing that is about 2*2' by 6" thick. Footing should be 18" below ground for frost protection (bed rock might not be that deep though). | |||
* Piers topped with level saddle. | |||
** Beams fit into saddles. Beams are 20'-0" long. | |||
** Beams are 4.5" wide. Outside faces of beams are 11'-10.5"apart. | |||
Roland suggested that we can attach the saddles to the beams, level the beams (support them at either end with temporary structures), and then build the piers. This way, we will be assured everything lines up. | |||
Also, loose rocks can be placed on the footings and around the piers to add some more weight to the foundations. | |||
===Option 1 - Rocks=== | |||
The original plan was to construct the foundations from the plentiful stone at the site. The rocks would be held together with mortar (and maybe chicken wire). Mortar can be used to level the saddles. | |||
Stone foundations were very common 100 years ago. | |||
Advantages: | |||
* Greatly reduces the weight needed to be transported to the site. | |||
Disadvantages: | |||
* Easy to mess up and build foundations that fall over. | |||
* Time consuming (need to find and wash rocks, CAREFULLY stack rocks...) | |||
* Harder to level the saddles. | |||
* Ideally need a stone mason (or brick layer) to help. | |||
===Option 2 - Readymix cement=== | |||
This would use concrete instead of rocks. Round cardboard forms can be used for the piers and rebar can be added for some more strength. Clean rocks could be added (no more that 1/3rd volume) to reduce the amount of cement needed. | |||
Advantages: | |||
* Lots of people know how to do this. | |||
* Easy to level the saddles. | |||
* Quicker construction. | |||
Dissadvantages: | |||
* Lots of weight needs to be flown in by helicopter (2000 lb) | |||
* Lots of cement mixing by hand. | |||
===Miscelaneous Options=== | |||
* Rebar connecting foundation to bedrock (assuming not too deep). Requires a hilti drill to dig holes into the bedrock. | |||
==Materials and Tools needed== | |||
Eventually add these to the [[Brew_Hut_rebuild/Tools_list| Tools list]]. | |||
===Both options=== | |||
* pick (digging in rock) | |||
* shovels | |||
* hoe (mix cement) | |||
* rock transport (build from old brew material) | |||
* brush to wash rocks | |||
* buckets to transport water | |||
* pen to mix cement or mortar on (plywood with some 2*6 sides, again use old brew material). | |||
* 6 saddles | |||
===Option 1 - Rocks=== | |||
* mortar (how much/ pier) | |||
===Option 2 - Readymix cement=== | |||
* lots of cement - one bag of readymix is 55lb (25kg) and gives 0.4 cubic feet of volume. | |||
* footings are 2 cubic feet each = 5 bags/footing (~4 if some rock added) = 6 footings * 5 bags * 55lb = 1650lb for footings alone (1300lb if some rock added). | |||
* pier volume depends on how level the site is (the pier at the high corner of the hut may be zero). | |||
* need some forms for the footings (old brew material) and piers (cardboard tubes) | |||
Revision as of 06:25, 3 April 2005
Claimed by Rueben Schulz
What I get to do
- Prepare list of materials to buy, with costs, prepare a schedule for making foundations.
- Bug the people I know for information about how to do this.
- Look over the book JP has about building with stone.
Preliminary Plans
- Reconnaissance once snow gone (before we fly up supplies):
- Survey site
- Dig hole(s) to bedrock (need pick, shovel, bar)
- Practice stacking rocks
- Maybe practice sticking rocks together with mortar
- Decide on specific foundation design
- Get needed matierials on helicopter
- Get volunteers (unsuspecting slaves) to do lots of manual work (dig 6 holes, transport and wash rocks, mix mortar)
Preliminary Design
We have two options for the materials used to build the foundations: rock or concrete. But any final designs will need to wait for the recon, since the depth and height of the foundations depends on how deep the bedrock is and how level the site is.
For either option the foundations will be:
- 6 piers (circular, 8" diameter if concrete)
- piers rest on a footing that is about 2*2' by 6" thick. Footing should be 18" below ground for frost protection (bed rock might not be that deep though).
- Piers topped with level saddle.
- Beams fit into saddles. Beams are 20'-0" long.
- Beams are 4.5" wide. Outside faces of beams are 11'-10.5"apart.
Roland suggested that we can attach the saddles to the beams, level the beams (support them at either end with temporary structures), and then build the piers. This way, we will be assured everything lines up.
Also, loose rocks can be placed on the footings and around the piers to add some more weight to the foundations.
Option 1 - Rocks
The original plan was to construct the foundations from the plentiful stone at the site. The rocks would be held together with mortar (and maybe chicken wire). Mortar can be used to level the saddles.
Stone foundations were very common 100 years ago.
Advantages:
- Greatly reduces the weight needed to be transported to the site.
Disadvantages:
- Easy to mess up and build foundations that fall over.
- Time consuming (need to find and wash rocks, CAREFULLY stack rocks...)
- Harder to level the saddles.
- Ideally need a stone mason (or brick layer) to help.
Option 2 - Readymix cement
This would use concrete instead of rocks. Round cardboard forms can be used for the piers and rebar can be added for some more strength. Clean rocks could be added (no more that 1/3rd volume) to reduce the amount of cement needed.
Advantages:
- Lots of people know how to do this.
- Easy to level the saddles.
- Quicker construction.
Dissadvantages:
- Lots of weight needs to be flown in by helicopter (2000 lb)
- Lots of cement mixing by hand.
Miscelaneous Options
- Rebar connecting foundation to bedrock (assuming not too deep). Requires a hilti drill to dig holes into the bedrock.
Materials and Tools needed
Eventually add these to the Tools list.
Both options
- pick (digging in rock)
- shovels
- hoe (mix cement)
- rock transport (build from old brew material)
- brush to wash rocks
- buckets to transport water
- pen to mix cement or mortar on (plywood with some 2*6 sides, again use old brew material).
- 6 saddles
Option 1 - Rocks
- mortar (how much/ pier)
Option 2 - Readymix cement
- lots of cement - one bag of readymix is 55lb (25kg) and gives 0.4 cubic feet of volume.
- footings are 2 cubic feet each = 5 bags/footing (~4 if some rock added) = 6 footings * 5 bags * 55lb = 1650lb for footings alone (1300lb if some rock added).
- pier volume depends on how level the site is (the pier at the high corner of the hut may be zero).
- need some forms for the footings (old brew material) and piers (cardboard tubes)