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I believe the windows up there already are single pane glass - glass absorbs most UV, so Lexan put on the insides will last a long time before it starts to go opaque. The internet says that double-pane glass windows are filled with argon which conducts less heat since it is less dense than air. Of course, argon is actually heavier than air (that's why He makes your voice high, and argon makes it low), so should probably conduct heat better? Do they fill them with Argon (over, say, Nitrogen which would also not fog up but is way cheaper) for some other reason? Having windows which don't fog up is really nice when attempting to look outside, although actually going outside is always possible. | I believe the windows up there already are single pane glass - glass absorbs most UV, so Lexan put on the insides will last a long time before it starts to go opaque. The internet says that double-pane glass windows are filled with argon which conducts less heat since it is less dense than air. Of course, argon is actually heavier than air (that's why He makes your voice high, and argon makes it low), so should probably conduct heat better? Do they fill them with Argon (over, say, Nitrogen which would also not fog up but is way cheaper) for some other reason? Having windows which don't fog up is really nice when attempting to look outside, although actually going outside is always possible.--[[User:Bigbadbasstrombone|Bigbadbasstrombone]] 09:12, 1 April 2009 (PDT) | ||
==The Plan?== | |||
I propose we do the renovations in two phases, separated by a long amount of time. Not too long, but long enough for us to bleach the hell out of everything during phase 1 and let the place dry before painting during phase 2. Other tasks can be distributed between the phases however we think will work out best, this also gives us some leeway if we say, decide to fix the roof during phase 1 but discover it's pissing rain that week. | |||
Then we could use industrial-style paint without worrying about it peeling and looking like hell from being applied to wet wood.--[[User:Bigbadbasstrombone|Bigbadbasstrombone]] 09:12, 1 April 2009 (PDT) | |||
Revision as of 16:12, 1 April 2009
Windows
If we're double paning the windows, would it make sense to use glass sealed units? These will have much better insulation and they will be UV proof. They will be more expensive, but perhaps it's worth it. The glass sealed unit windows at Brew have proven to be plenty durable.
Scott Nelson 12:53, 27 March 2009 (PDT)
- At the very least I think we should do a cost comparison. My guess/understanding is that buying fancy plexiglas/Lexan sheets isn't really so cheap. Scott Webster
- Yes, a cost comparison would be good. Scott N, you helped make the windows up at Brew - is that correct? Maybe you just bought them. Can you figure out what it would cost? The dimensions (without frame) are on the wiki - we could get "hole" dimensions before actually having them made.
Advantages:
- They won't fog up
- Better insulator (but by how much?)
- More "long-term" (maybe?)
Disadvantages:
- heavy to carry up
- more expensive (but by how much?)
- must do more work to install
- could get broken during carry-in
I believe the windows up there already are single pane glass - glass absorbs most UV, so Lexan put on the insides will last a long time before it starts to go opaque. The internet says that double-pane glass windows are filled with argon which conducts less heat since it is less dense than air. Of course, argon is actually heavier than air (that's why He makes your voice high, and argon makes it low), so should probably conduct heat better? Do they fill them with Argon (over, say, Nitrogen which would also not fog up but is way cheaper) for some other reason? Having windows which don't fog up is really nice when attempting to look outside, although actually going outside is always possible.--Bigbadbasstrombone 09:12, 1 April 2009 (PDT)
The Plan?
I propose we do the renovations in two phases, separated by a long amount of time. Not too long, but long enough for us to bleach the hell out of everything during phase 1 and let the place dry before painting during phase 2. Other tasks can be distributed between the phases however we think will work out best, this also gives us some leeway if we say, decide to fix the roof during phase 1 but discover it's pissing rain that week.
Then we could use industrial-style paint without worrying about it peeling and looking like hell from being applied to wet wood.--Bigbadbasstrombone 09:12, 1 April 2009 (PDT)